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Hewene
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((((((Elda))))))) Thanks for sharing that. I'm so sorry for your loss. But it sounds like she knew how much you cared for and about her, and appreciated her. And in the end, that's what really counts.

Peachy --- well, shoot! Now I need to go have certain words with HALFling! Hmmph!

Rosie and Cairi --- hope you're doing OK!

Hewene

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Mirabella
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quote:
Originally posted by queen2120
As far as believing in the orc run, I believed! You have to put disbelief aside completely, LOTR is fantasy for Erus' sake, the whole book is full of amazing absurdities, the orc run being one of the least absurd things of all.
Fantasy doesn't mean completely setting aside disbelief, nor should it; that's part of why some fantasy works and some doesn't. The author has to make you believe in what's going on. Tolkien made me believe in elves and ents; he did not make me believe in the orc run, which simply required turning off way too much of my brain in order to accept it. Saying that if I believe one then I have to believe the other is like saying that if I believe Tolkien's elves/ents/hobbits/whatever then I must also believe that Pippin could throw himself off the top of Orthanc and walk away from the landing without so much as a bruise, and I frankly wouldn't have bought that either.

I love fantasy as a genre and have read it my whole life, but it does not and should not require me to shut off my brain and passively accept anything an author chooses to throw at me.

Also, Elenya, thanks, I'd forgotten about that part. I still would have been more impressed and less skeptical if smaller orcs had appeared sometime before there was a sudden need for small orc armor, and if I recall correctly your quote comes after the Tower.

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Elenya
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You're right, Mira. The orc is tracking them through Mordor. It also shows that only some orcs had a keen sense of smell. I've never had too much problem with the orc run. Poor Frodo is suffering, and that's always been good enough for me

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quicksilver
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This discussion has made me go back to the book (always a good thing ) just to see what Tolks actually did say about the orc-run...
Frodo and Sam are sitting at the roadside as the orcs approach..

quote:

Those in the foremost files bore torches....
....Now Sam too bowed his head, hoping that it would hide his face when the torches reached them; and he set their shields before their knees to hide their feet......
.....The leading orcs came loping along, panting, holding their heads down. They were a gang of the smaller breeds being driven unwilling to their Dark Lord's wars........
.....File after file passed, and the tell-tale torchlight was already some way ahead.


So it was dark, they hid their hairy feet, the orcs were smaller breeds and the torchlight had passed before the Uruk spotted them.

In other news, there's a TV programme on tonight called "The Joy Of Cleavage"

Wonder if the Frodolls are watching it.

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Mirabella
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So it was dark, they hid their hairy feet, the orcs were smaller breeds and the torchlight had passed before the Uruk spotted them.
Yes, and had they just sat there while the orcs passed that would have been fine. But the Uruk did spot them, leading them to have to actually get up, hairy feet and all, and run along with a column of orcs, not actually in the middle of them but certainly close enough that unless Tolkien was wrong and orcs were actually made in mockery of hobbits the difference should have been pretty glaring.

I've been reading these books for more than twenty years. I've read them well over a dozen times, I've read every word in this particular scene at least six or seven times, and this scene has never been believable to me. I've always seen it as absurd and pointless. The very degree of mental and logical gymnastics and "Well, if the orcs couldn't smell and if varieties of small hairy-footed orcs suddenly appeared out of nowhere and if they all had their heads down and no one was paying attention, and if the torchlight was way up ahead..." that must be engaged in in order to make it believable is, to me, telling. I can make a lot of allowances, but not that many. And yes, sometimes bizarre strings of ifs do come together in real life, but that doesn't mean it makes for convincing or involving reading.

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Ariel
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This is really pretty funny… arguing over the feasibility of the orc run. I have always had a certain level of ‘suspension of disbelief’ while reading any fantasy. That particular passage had enough angst and was, I believe, important in draining Frodo past the last dregs of his endurance – something that was necessary for his later actions - that I forgave any possible problems I might have had envisioning the situation. In the end, different things are going to make sense/not make sense to different people. The credibily of that moment wasn’t quite enough to ruin my appreciation of a nice angsty moment.

On the other hand, in the film ‘Return of the Jedi’ I was so incensed and outraged by the suggestion that an android would have been able to feel pain that I could not help but seethe every time I saw that scene (blissfully a very few exposures). In that film, it was not any particular unbelievable moment that ruined the film for me but an accumulation of unbelievable moments that in the end made me unable to enjoy the film. By contrast, though the Osgiliath scene smacks of that same kind of illogic, it was only one moment and though TTT is not my favorite film, it was not enough to ruin the movie for me.

Oh, Peachy… You truly ARE a treasure! I have never laughed so hard in the middle of a meeting in my life. HEHEHE…

Sorry to hear about your landlady, Elda. Having dealt with my share of ‘bad’ christians, it is sad to hear of the passing of one of the good ones. Perhaps someone upstairs craved her company as well. (((HUGS))))

Mike! You mean there is something amiss about being fixated on a fictional character? :P Do tell…

Welcome to my pervy world, Elenya...

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Narya Celebrian
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quote:
They were a gang of the smaller breeds being driven unwilling to their Dark Lord's wars........


You know, that line has always given me a little shiver of delight. How wonderful that, even amongst the orcs, Tolkien did not take the easy way out of making all his 'monsters' equally evil and willing to revel in destruction and chaos. The Dark Lord had to force even some of the perversions of his own world to fight.

And on a more primal level, I've always felt a little sorry for these orcs, as I always pictured them as being torn unwilling from the relative peace of their regular nasty lives in order to fight for something they didn't necessarily believe in; at the very least they didn't have any eagerness to suffer and die for Sauron. Even if any of them was to notice anything odd about Sam and Frodo, what benefit was there to be gained by saying anything? They were fellow captives of the oppressors.

It is funny how differently our minds work. I've never had problems with the orc run not 'fitting' in Tolkien's construction, while there are other things that stand out for me far more, and require a much larger suspension of disbelief. Vive la difference!

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mel headstrong
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quote:
Originally posted by Narya Celebrian
And on a more primal level, I've always felt a little sorry for these orcs, as I always pictured them as being torn unwilling from the relative peace of their regular nasty lives in order to fight for something they didn't necessarily believe in; at the very least they didn't have any eagerness to suffer and die for Sauron. Even if any of them was to notice anything odd about Sam and Frodo, what benefit was there to be gained by saying anything? They were fellow captives of the oppressors.

That reminds me of Anne Ellis's (sadly, unfinished) fan fiction story about CU.

And about being fellow captives of the oppressors -- being oppressed, sadly, does not necessarily make one more friendly to others who are also oppressed. I could easily imagine the little orcs getting worse treatment for letting the hobbits get away with anything (though I don't think I could imagine them getting some kind of reward -- orcs in Shagrat's position (don't want to pick on Gorbag ), for instance, maybe, but not the ones so low in the pecking order).

Mel

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Narya Celebrian
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I wasn't thinking that the orcs would let the 'little orcs' get away with anything - more that they were just caught up in their own misery, and would see no reward in looking about to notice anything unusual around them.

And this just made me wonder - I wonder if part of the reason PJ has Treebeard mistake Merry and Pippin for 'little orcs' was a set-up for the hobbits being able to blend in during the orc run...

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Mirabella
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quote:
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I wonder if part of the reason PJ has Treebeard mistake Merry and Pippin for 'little orcs' was a set-up for the hobbits being able to blend in during the orc run...
It's more likely to be because when Treebeard first meets Merry and Pippin in the books he says something to the effect of "If I hadn't heard your voices before I saw you, I might have mistaken you for orcs and trod on you."

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I have no problem with suspension of disbelief.

After over a year in the Harem I believe I am an auburn haired, heaving bosemed hobbit-lass living on Tol Eressea, who gets to snog ( and more ) the gorgeous hobbit-of-my-dreams in any number of places and at every possible opportunity.

If I can believe that, I'll believe anything.

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((((Elda))))) She sounds like she was a beautiful lady. One of God's rare treasures.

Catta! Your avatar ...yummy yum yum. He's good enough to EAT. Just look at that pure creamy complexion! Mmm, that's the most gorgeousest, most scrumptiously delicious bit of Fro-crumpet in Eru's universe ...

Pearl's post starts going into 'When Harry Met Sally' mode, as Yavanna calls it.

After a period of prolonged incoherency, not to mention flushes, swoonings and other hormonal happenings, she eventually recovers, and picks herself off the floor, only to start squeaking:


'The Mithril Shirt! The Mithril Shirt!
Yes, ladies! If you want ROTK spoilers, check out the ROTK thread for some juicy canon-based angst, oh my good Eru ... Descends into incoherency again for a while. Oh, it's nothing we don't know. Just something we all hoped desperately would be IN. That's enough to get me going!

Look, it's hot, OK? It was 90 Fahrenheit in London today, one of those heatwaves we get every ten years or so. It's hot, and I'm a steamy Haremite and my temperature is rising. 'Cause I likes my Fro and I wants him, and I wants my ROTK and I wants it NOW.

Here's a gem from Cion:

quote:
Originally posted by Cionaudha
Ah, Crickhollow. We never knew ye.

Frodo and Pippin in their scruffy little altogethers, singing Water Hot! And making the water Leap on High.

*sigh*

There was also no time to properly dwell upon the Sacred Mysteries of the Contents of Frodo's Wardrobe at Bag End. Perhaps there were other Shirts, as mystically commanding as The One.

Also mourned is the Lingering, Lush, and Sensuously Intoxicating Slo-Mo Shower under the Waterfall.


{Pearl: babe, what did I miss? what shower? what waterfall? tell us, tell us, tell us. I've been reading that book for 20 years ... what did I miss??!!}

Any number of Frodo Sleeping Peacefully in Lothlorien Whilst Silvery Blossoms Caress His Forehead scenes, gone.

*Whimper*

[quote]The Further Gigglings of Tipsy Frodo at the Green Dragon, we can only guess at.

But, that's why I keep my imagination on the bottom shelf, where I can reach it easily.

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Elenya
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quote:
'The Mithril Shirt! The Mithril Shirt!


Elenya goes takes a look Yay!

After Elda brought the throbbing passage to mind from Many Meetings, I would like you to bring you all my hot tip:

If you like the music from the Matrix Reloaded go find your favourite, hot, sexy piece of fanfiction and read it while listening to Track #11 (Zion). The Sex Scene music. Preferably put it on a loop so it plays over and over again.

Elenya joins Pearl in the steamy haremite corner

Mmmmmmm. Throbbing.

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Elenya, I would love to try your hot tip (as the haremite said to the raven-haired hobbit.. ), but sadly I don't own that album. Do you recommend it? Sweet Eru, that sex scene certainly was steamy! Phwoar!


((((((Elda)))))) So sorry about your loss.

((((((Rosie and Cairi)))))) and anyone else affected by the hurricane.

quote:
Originally posted by Niphredil

There's also a firm called "Ferodo's".


Yes - I drove past one in Wembley a couple of weeks ago and had to look twice sharpish. My brain had conveniantly taken out the 'e'!
quote:
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After over a year in the Harem I believe I am an auburn haired, heaving bosemed hobbit-lass living on Tol Eressea, who gets to snog ( and more ) the gorgeous hobbit-of-my-dreams in any number of places and at every possible opportunity.

If I can believe that, I'll believe anything.



ROTFLMAO! So sad, but true.
quote:
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But, that's why I keep my imagination on the bottom shelf, where I can reach it easily.


Sometimes my imagination is all too easy to reach. With all this talk of what might be in ROTK and the presence of the Arwen gif, I was contemplating Arwen's embroidering of Aragorn's flag brought to him by Halbarad. Heaven only knows why I was considering such an insignificant scene. Then it occurred to me. Oh, the horror. The total nightmare of it all. What if, what if........Arwen brings the flag herself? But of course Eowyn is present soon after. Then they would meet and there'd be a ruffling of feathers etc etc. Horror of horrors. And I seem to remember talk some time ago of some Eowyn-Aragorn-Arwen love triangle?

I fear greatly that this will come to pass. Net result = more time wasting, less angsty-half-naked-orc armour clad Hobbit anguished-to-the-point-of-overwhelming-beauty.

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Pearl, I might have made that up, the part about the Shower. Since I ritually avoid reading the Bombadil stuff, and matter can neither be created nor destroyed, I have to supply an equal number of pages elsewhere.

I hot-footed over to the Spoilers thread to see the Mithril Photo, but I misunderstood... no Mithril Photo, only Mithril Text. There was another picture there, however.... I swear, if a man looked at me like Aragorn is looking at that camera, I would just... ...

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Elda, that was a lovely tribute to your neighbor. She sounds like a wonderful woman.

Uh oh! Hope Texas avoids getting hit too badly Prayers for Rosie and Cairi, as well as anyone else on the Texas coast.

Peachy! That song actually made me laugh out loud. Usually I just snicker and giggle quietly, but not this time You know, it's embarrassing when others notice the inexplicable laughter and high-pitched noises, but it's even worse when they stop noticing because it's so common! Ooops. Almost completely forgot the diary entry. Fantastic!

I rather like Cion's version of the movie . . . And, you know, now that Cion's posted that, somebody's got to write it . . . if they haven't already!

Oh, why thank you Pearl Apparently pschycadelic has things going for it! I guess I'll keep it. Although, if Pearl keeps doing that every time she sees it, her productivity is going to go down a lot . . .

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elanorh pops in quickly, in hopes she's able to actually get this posted ....

Well, ladies, I'm only 12 pages behind y'all at this point! Although I must admit I have also read the past two pages, just so I'm up on the most recent happenings too!

So, do want to send comforting ((hugs)) Elda's way ....

And welcome back after a verylongbreak ((hugs)) to MikeParenteau (!!) who has been missed.

AND ... hoping the Texas Haremites are all home safe and snug during this storm.

RL continues to pound me on this end ... it's reached the point where I cannot put off sewing maternity clothes any longer ( ) -- and of course garden, work, etc. are all rioting out of control too after our vacation.

As someone who's not been able to follow the whole conversation since she's not caught up ... but am willing to jump in anyway -- I think most of us have different places we may have had a bit of a "what the ---???" response to a plot twist in LOTR .... or any other book. Probably the biggest one of all would have been the shock that early readers of the Hobbit had to the changes Tolkien wrote in, as LOTR was in progress. Pretty hefty whumps to the original story, really ...! That aside ... the orc run never hit me as greatly unrealistic, as Legolas's ability to see for leagues and leagues. To each her/his own, I guess.

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off topic

Elanorh, speaking of being preggers....

My 40 year old baby sis was delivered of a 7lb 2 oz boy kid baby. Her 20 year old daughter was there taking pics of the whole c-section thing (yikes ) The daughter wanted a baby sis but got her third brother, but agrees he is precious as can be!

I will be a great auntie again soon, a boy this time.
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peace

ps, oh yeah










MY FRODOLL IS HERE
My huz answered the door, I was hoping he would not be here for the delivery, but was. No comment on his part. My kids cannot figure out why I will not open the box.

Mira, I do see your point. When Aragorn is figuring out what happened to Merry and Pip in the TTT film, (A hobbit lay here..) I just do not buy it. I do accept it though, as being every bit as possible and probable as everything (and anything for that matter) else in the story.

*gonna go stare at my funny lookin' Frodoll, I need to bond with him eye to eye and explain why I cannot let him out just yet.

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Thanks for all the well-wishes. Claudette pounded Galveston pretty hard, but mostly it was south of us, between Corpus and Houston . She was only a category 1 storm (only 75 mph winds), but boy did she produce a heck of a storm surge! Communities around Galveston Bay flooded pretty bad. All safe and dry where I am, though

Congrats Queenie on your Frodoll!!!! We must think of an acronym. QS is taken, of course, but he could be QuF or Q2F or QF2 or something else. Poor darling - he wants out, to be sure, but it won't be long. *bounce* *bounce*

(((((elanorh))))

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How about QE2 like the ship?

{{{Elda}}}} She seemed like a wonderful lady who lived a long full life -- Heaven is blessed to have her

I'm glad you're safe, Rosie!
Now, how about you, Cairi? I hope you're safe too!

Yay! I got a new prescription for my contacts today! I can seeeee!!

I do find it very amusing that there is a serious discussion going on about the Orc March

Although this is the best and most interesting type of discussion -- very polite, very well-researched! No flames in here, nosir!

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I'm glad you're safe, Rosie!
Now, how about you, Cairi? I hope you're safe too!




Yep! All safe and sound! Initially, it looked bad, but thankfully it scooted west just in time! Thanks all! CF was amazed at the news casts. (But poor West End of Galveston. )

{{{{Elda}}}}

So glad you can see better Spork!

Queenie! Congrats on Frodoll! CF can't wait to meet his brothers. Give the box a hug from his brother.

Almost 5 more months... and then we can see CU and the Orc March (oh puleeeze PJ! ).

Cairi goes in search of Frodo to get some post Hurricane cuddles.

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Yes - I drove past one in Wembley a couple of weeks ago and had to look twice sharpish. My brain had conveniantly taken out the 'e'!


Me too, Opaline. I drove past one a month or so back. I pointed it out to Idril, who rolled her eyes.

(((((Spork))))) You can see now, Spork? You mean you wanted to shag him senseless and you haven't even seen how gorgeous he is?????

Elenya stands by with fire extinguisher as Spork turns to get a her first clear view of the Squire.

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Work is bit fraught today - my boss has suddenly registered that I'm going on holdiay - so I have only skimmed the last couple of pages. This may explain why I read one of the words in Cion's "Frodo Sleeping Peacefully in Lothlorien Whilst Silvery Blossoms Caress His Forehead" completely wrong. I don't think I need to explain which word it was, do I?

Ferodo: I have a long-standing affection for Ferodo (whatever it is that they make). In the dim, distant past before the M25 when you had to drive through the City of London to get to the M1, I used to regularly travel under a bridge with "Ferodo" emblazoned on it in huge white letters, and muse about a certain hobbit. Fortunately for other road users, I was too young to drive at the time. I wonder if it's still there?

I find it far easier to suspend belief when I'm reading than when I'm watching a film so, whilst the orc run didn't bother me in the book it might well do if it makes it onto the screen. Frankly, so long as we get Frodo putting on and taking off the orc armour I'll be a happy bunny.

((Elda)) - Sorry about your loss
Rosie & Cairi: I'm happy to hear that you are safe and well.
Queenie: GYF & I send our love and look forward to meeting his as-yet unnamed and unliberated Brother.

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A friend of mine used to have a Ferodo spoon - that's right - Lobelia clearly wasn't getting away with it a second time. Bilbo clearly marked his legacy for his dear nephew so the S-B's couldn't stop him eating his cereal in the future. (Probably concerned he was underweight for a hobbit even then).

OK - you can blame the London heat for the above post.

I don't think making hallmarked Ferodo spoons is actually the reason Ferodos exists. Just firm cutlery they didn't want nicked.

Elenya - I was the same when the angst kicked in, and forgot about Snaga's highly dodgy hearing and the orcs taking F and S for deserters (they would take a GREAT DEAL of swallowing without the follow-up angst, though!)

In fact, I'm sure it's not the only time Tolks redeems incredibility with angst ...

I'm sure we could make a list, actually:

INCREDIBILITY-REDEEMING ANGST EXAMPLES:

1. Unbelievably clueless Nazgul redeemed by delicious Weathertop and post Weathertop angst, sending oestrogen levels into overdrive.
2. Frodo being saved from orc-spear-skewering, no matter how hard and impenetrable mithril mail is supposed to be, redeemed by shirtless bruised battered painful-breathing athelas tending by concerned Ranger-becoming-king scene, thus sending oestrogen levels into overdrive.
3. The Cirith Ungol Suicide Squad (200 strong), facilitating Frodo's rescue from nasty orc tower, redeemed by the trauma, exposure, terror, anguish, pain, nakedness, vulnerability, etc etc of the Cirith Ungol scene, thus sending oestrogen levels into overdrive.
4. Possibly more clueless orc taking disguised hobbits for deserter orcs (I'll allow that the hobbit feet may have been hidden behind the shields and possibly the orc didn't look down once they had stood up, but other factors take more work), redeemed by poor darling traumatised tormented nightmare-suffering Frodo being force-marched through Mordor, thus sending oestrogen levels into overdrive.
5. Pretty incredible (and angstily tense) escape from above orc and his slaves/helpers (however clueless) redeemed by poor spent exhausted Frodo collapsed in a crater, tended and watered by his faithful Sam, thus sending oestrogen levels into overdrive.
6. Escape by eagle from the burning slopes of Orodruin, followed and redeemed (albeit more gradually, and later) by poor darling Frodo's full growth to understanding that "there is no real going back", and his quiet hiding of his anniversary pain (whenever possible) from all who care about him, resulting in a crescendo in both spirit and sense which transcends anything so paltry as oestrogen overload, causing seratonin fountains to burst through the pain from the sheer bittersweet beauty of the tale.

This is the third British summer of heat waves to my knowledge.

Ghyste - at leat you'll be hooting soon, I believe?

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Ghyste - at least you'll be hooting soon, I believe?
I will indeed - in fact I got the DDL to arrange the present heatwave just to make sure I was properly acclimatised

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